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	<title>Comments on: 10.5.6 Upgrade and My Safari Woes</title>
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		<title>By: CareyB</title>
		<link>http://macmembrane.com/1056-upgrade-and-my-safari-woes/comment-page-1/#comment-290</link>
		<dc:creator>CareyB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 13:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Web professional I use many extension in Firefox, but since this is my first new, up-to-date, MacBook, I&#039;m using Safari exclusively so I can get to know it.  As far as I can tell, for general purpose browsing, it&#039;s just fine, except for the odd compliance issue, but you get that will all browsers these days.  On the other hand, I love the tools from developer mode.  Firefox needs an extension (FireBug) to do that.

I did just discover Glim, and add-on for Safari, and that gets me back a few features, including a decent full screen mode - I wrote a script to do it, but Glim is better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Web professional I use many extension in Firefox, but since this is my first new, up-to-date, MacBook, I&#8217;m using Safari exclusively so I can get to know it.  As far as I can tell, for general purpose browsing, it&#8217;s just fine, except for the odd compliance issue, but you get that will all browsers these days.  On the other hand, I love the tools from developer mode.  Firefox needs an extension (FireBug) to do that.</p>
<p>I did just discover Glim, and add-on for Safari, and that gets me back a few features, including a decent full screen mode &#8211; I wrote a script to do it, but Glim is better.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 21:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I miss the most with Firefox is the ability to use Services but this feature was 	rudimentarily implemented in the recent trunk version of Firefox, so we can expect this feature in version 3.2.

Even if Firefox isn&#039;t as tightly integrated into the whole system as Safari or other WebKit based browser, I find it&#039;s a decent browser on OS X and the extension give it an extra bonus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I miss the most with Firefox is the ability to use Services but this feature was 	rudimentarily implemented in the recent trunk version of Firefox, so we can expect this feature in version 3.2.</p>
<p>Even if Firefox isn&#8217;t as tightly integrated into the whole system as Safari or other WebKit based browser, I find it&#8217;s a decent browser on OS X and the extension give it an extra bonus.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 15:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick: yes, Safari is a huge memory eater. For me, it&#039;s all the little things about the app that keep me loyal, especially the AppleScript support (as I mentioned in the post). But I will check out the Firefox 3.1 beta. Thanks.

CareyB: I&#039;ve tried everything I can think of to make Safari behave. Not working at all.

Safari&#039;s non-extensibility has never been a problem for me. I know that some will defend Firefox to the death should anyone assert that it isn&#039;t the best browser on all platforms. For Windows there is not question that Firefox is king.

Is there a full screen mode in Firefox? I didn&#039;t know that (and can&#039;t find it).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick: yes, Safari is a huge memory eater. For me, it&#8217;s all the little things about the app that keep me loyal, especially the AppleScript support (as I mentioned in the post). But I will check out the Firefox 3.1 beta. Thanks.</p>
<p>CareyB: I&#8217;ve tried everything I can think of to make Safari behave. Not working at all.</p>
<p>Safari&#8217;s non-extensibility has never been a problem for me. I know that some will defend Firefox to the death should anyone assert that it isn&#8217;t the best browser on all platforms. For Windows there is not question that Firefox is king.</p>
<p>Is there a full screen mode in Firefox? I didn&#8217;t know that (and can&#8217;t find it).</p>
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		<title>By: CareyB</title>
		<link>http://macmembrane.com/1056-upgrade-and-my-safari-woes/comment-page-1/#comment-281</link>
		<dc:creator>CareyB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 12:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m on the current versions of everything, same as you guys, but I notice no problems.  May take would then be that there&#039;s something in the resources of the app/system that could be reset, or changed.  Perhaps there&#039;s a plug-in issue.

On the other hand, from a strictly functional point of view, I&#039;m wondering about Firefox.  With extensions, Firefox has many more features than Safari, and some of Safari&#039;s behaviours are certainly restrictive - no native full screen, for example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m on the current versions of everything, same as you guys, but I notice no problems.  May take would then be that there&#8217;s something in the resources of the app/system that could be reset, or changed.  Perhaps there&#8217;s a plug-in issue.</p>
<p>On the other hand, from a strictly functional point of view, I&#8217;m wondering about Firefox.  With extensions, Firefox has many more features than Safari, and some of Safari&#8217;s behaviours are certainly restrictive &#8211; no native full screen, for example.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 12:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve also switched to Firefox a couple of weeks ago because Safari/WebKit forgets all my cookies once I restart it.

On OS X I&#039;ve never been too fond of Firefox but I must admit that the recent beta version of Firefox 3.1 is really nice and the memory footprint is much lighter than with Safari.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve also switched to Firefox a couple of weeks ago because Safari/WebKit forgets all my cookies once I restart it.</p>
<p>On OS X I&#8217;ve never been too fond of Firefox but I must admit that the recent beta version of Firefox 3.1 is really nice and the memory footprint is much lighter than with Safari.</p>
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